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‘The Double Identity of an “Anti-Semitic” Commenter’

“Like many other news websites, Common Dreams has been plagued by inflammatory anti-Semitic comments following its stories. But on Common Dreams these posts have been so frequent and intense they have driven away donors from a nonprofit dependent on reader generosity.

A Common Dreams investigation has discovered that more than a thousand of these damaging comments over the past two years were written with a deceptive purpose by a Jewish Harvard graduate in his thirties who was irritated by the website’s discussion of issues involving Israel.

His intricate campaign, which he has admitted to Common Dreams, included posting comments by a screen name, “JewishProgressive,” whose purpose was to draw attention to and denounce the anti-Semitic comments that he had written under many other screen names.

The deception was many-layered. At one point he had one of his characters charge that the anti-Semitic comments and the criticism of the anti-Semitic comments must be written by “internet trolls who have been known to impersonate anti-Semites in order to then double-back and accuse others of supporting anti-Semitism”–exactly what he was doing. (Trolls are posters who foment discord.)

The impersonation, this character wrote, must be part of an “elaborate Hasbara setup,” referring to an Israeli international public-relations campaign. When Common Dreams finally confronted the  man behind the deceptive posting, he denied that he himself was involved with Hasbara.

His posting on Common Dreams illustrates the susceptibility of website comment threads to massive manipulation. As another illustration, he even audaciously tricked the white-supremacist Vanguard News Network, posing as “DeShawn S. Williams,” a “Pro-White/Black, anti-jew.”

On Vanguard, where this African-American persona posted more than 1,400 times, he encouraged the malevolence of Frazier Glenn Miller, the neo-Nazi accused of killing three people whom he believed were Jews outside a Jewish community center and retirement home in Kansas in April. The character Williams was engaged in a comment thread more than 200 times with Miller, whose screen name was Rounder.

In a Vanguard post under the Williams screen name the commenter asked rhetorically, “Are left wing folks finally waking up to the jew?” He then referred the Vanguard online community to a thread of anti-Semitic comments on Common Dreams–most of which he had written himself under several screen names.

A typical DeShawn Williams comment might include: “Israel is a stain on the world that needs to be expunged once and for all.” Or: “The jews are the most racist people on earth. Just look at their Talmud. They consider the ‘goyim’ (non-jews) to be cattle whose only purpose on earth is to serve them.”

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http://www.commondreams.org/hambaconeggs

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Joy Wolfe MBE:Just Another Odious Zionist Propagandist!

Joy Wolfe MBE:Just Another Odious Zionist Propagandist!

Joy Wolfe Proving herself to be another hasbarist apologist for Zionist crimes

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June 25, 2014 · 1:40 pm

Chris Proudlove Spouting His Ignorance On Video

Recently i wrote about Chris Proudlove and his lies https://christiansforzionwatch.wordpress.com/2014/05/05/chris-proudlovethe-man-who-cant-stop-lying/  well here he is on video spouting his ignorance and lies. I would like to point out that in the past couple of years he has been repeatedly asked to provide evidence to back up his claims….No evidence has ever been forthcoming. So one must wonder why he claims the ‘world is ignorant’ regarding San Remo when he himself is ignorant. Once again we find him unable to deviate from his Hasbara script.

 

Also, he repeats a claim that “half of all Jews born in past 800 [eight hundred] years have been murdered. Now we all know that throughout history Jews have been mercilessly discriminated against…So we must ask why he would repeat such a blatant lie a lie which again i have have made repeated attempts to gain evidence for……But again, no evidence is fortcoming….I think we know why he can’t provide any evidence to back up his claims…

 

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Chris Proudlove:The Man Who Can’t Stop Lying!

Imagaine my surprise when i looked in on the CfZ [Christians for Zion] website and found Chris Proudlove once more waxing lyrical about the San Remo treaty. Anyone who has kept up to date with this blog will know that Chris is a pitiful individual who lies and contradicts himself constantly. Now, i wont go over San Remo again here as Proudlove’s lies have been mercilessly debunked over and over by commenters here such as Ruedi, Oneof5, Talknic and myself. What i will do is look at some of his Hasbara [propaganda] and lies from his latest blog titled ‘PALESTINE DIPLOMAT SPOKE WITH FORKED TONGUE’.

 

I know, when i read the headline i laughed too i am just glad i had just emptied my bladder before reading it 😉

 

Professor Hassassian asked what were the borders governing Israel? I put it to him later that they were defined by the San Remo Treaty, approved unanimously by the 51-member League of Nations that came into force in 1923 and were taken on board by its successor, the United Nations in 1945. This gave the future state of Israel the right to settle Jews between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, including the Gaza Strip, provided rights of existing communities were not overridden.

The blustering professor pooh-poohed the treaty saying this was colonisation. I did not get the chance to counter this lie and was shouted down when I attempted to correct him.

 

Here’s previous quote from Chris that he made on this blog.

 

 Israel actually has a better claim to its existence, having been created by the U.N. rather than by the whims and national interests of the Allied victors.

 

He posted that particular quote under his alter ego, Buster.J.Bailey as can be seen here,

https://christiansforzionwatch.wordpress.com/2013/07/12/israels-real-legitimacy/#comments

 

You can also read more of his lies and contradictions on San Remo here,

https://christiansforzionwatch.wordpress.com/about/

 

He then goes on to tell us that it wasn’t Hitler and the Nazis who came up with the final solution….It was the Palestinians.

 

One of the most damnable lies Hassassian told was “Palestinians had nothing to do with the Holocaust.” What about the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini who, after being forced to flee the Holy Land for terrorism against Jews, he became Adolf Hitler’s broadcaster-in-chief to Muslims? Some historians claim he was pivotal in Hitler’s “final solution” decision. What is not in dispute is that he persuaded Hitler to extend his Jewish death camp policy to the Middle East once the Nazis captured the region. Al-Husseini’s broadcasts won many Muslims, including Palestinians, to the Axis cause.

 

That must be one of worst blood libels in history. Proudlove the liar is telling his readers, who, from what i can tell from their comments on the CfZ website, are a mixture of racists, bigots, liars and heretics, that Palestinians, through the actions of one man are collectively to blame for the Holocaust. I seriously don’t think i have ever felt so disgusted in my entire life. Proudlove may only be an idiot and liar but he  is a dangerous one .

 

There’s pleny more lies in his blog but i just can’t be bothered wasting my time going over them all. You can look for yourselves and easily spot who it is that is speaking with ‘FORKED TONGUE’

http://www.christiansforzion.com/comment-chris-proudlove/2014/4/28/palestine-diplomat-spoke-with-forked-tongue

 

There’s also more than a hint of racism in there too.

 

 

 

 

 

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A Latter Day Joseph Goebbels.

Prolific liar and Hasbarist Chris Proudlove is at it again. This time he repeats a lie that was previously debunked here,

  https://christiansforzionwatch.wordpress.com/2013/06/24/when-is-it-ok-to-lie/

His lie is that “Resolution 242, passed by the UN Security Council following the war, gave implicit recognition to Israeli territorial conquests and affirmed Israel’s right to safe and secure boundaries.”

Here’s the truth.

From the preamble of UNSC resolution 242,

” The Security Council,

 Expressing its continuing concern with the grave situation in the Middle East,

 Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security,”

Note how Proudlove attempts to give the impression that Only Israel has the right to live in “safe and secure boundaries” ?

Here’s a quote from author of the resolution,  Lord Caradon

“Knowing as I did the unsatisfactory nature of the 1967 line I was not prepared to use wording in the Resolution which would have made that line permanent. Nevertheless it is necessary to say again that the overriding principle was the “inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war” and that meant that there could be no justification for annexation of territory on the Arab side of the 1967 line merely because it had been conquered in the 1967 war.”

Let’s wait and see if he comes clean to his fellow “Christians” on the CfZ website.

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Why Do Christians For Zion Lie So Much?

In his latest absurdly titled blog we find Chris Proudlove spouting the same old tired chestnut.

 

“…With Turkish rule ending in the Middle East the Allies’ aim was to create one Jewish state and a number of Muslim nations in the region. The LoN mandated Britain to sort out matters pertaining to Palestine and Mesopotamia (Iraq).”

 

No, it was never intended to create a “Jewish state”. The LoN mandate’s aim was to allow Jews, in certain numbers, immigrate to Palestine and take up PALESTINIAN citizenship.

 

Article 7 of the mandate,

 

“The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law. There shall be included in this law provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine.”

 

Also,

 

“His Majesty’s Government believe that the framers of the Mandate in which the Balfour Declaration was embodied could not have intended that Palestine should be converted into a Jewish State against the will of the Arab population of the country. […] His Majesty’s Government therefore now declare unequivocally that it is not part of their policy that Palestine should become a Jewish State”

 

Chris then goes on to tell us,

 

“Britain’s Mandate, as far as Palestinian Jews were concerned, was to grant them statehood when they were deemed ready to rule.”

 

Again, no.

 

“it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims “the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development”

 

And,

 

“The object of Zionism is to establish for the Jewish people a home in Palestine secured by public law.” ..It has been said and is still being obstinately repeated by anti-Zionists again and again, that Zionism aims at the creation of an independent “Jewish State” But this is fallacious. The “Jewish State” was never part of the Zionist programme. The Jewish State was the title of Herzl’s first pamphlet, which had the supreme merit of forcing people to think. This pamphlet was followed by the first Zionist Congress, which accepted the Basle programme – the only programme in existence.”

 

Nahum Sokolow, Zionist representative at the Paris peace conference.

 

Also,  at the Paris peace conference “US Secretary of State Lansing asked Dr Weizmann “to clear up some confusion which existed in his mind as to the correct meaning of the words “Jewish National Home”. Did that mean an autonomous Jewish Government?” Dr Weizmann replied in the negative.”

 

Although by the time the thuggish Ben Gurion and his gang of ethnic cleansers came along they did try to rewrite the Zionist aims.

 

 

He then goes on to tell us,

 

“As time wore on, however, war-weary and almost bankrupted Britain could not control the burgeoning military conflict between Arab and Jew. This led to Britain handing over the Mandate to the United Nations, LoN’s successor, in 1948.

 

The U.N was obliged to complete legalities stemming from its LoN predecessor. So, it was as Mandate holder that the UN facilitated the recreation of Israel. The action of U.N. was a ‘rubber stamp’ to what the LoN had stipulated.”

 

Again, no.

 

“The United Nations does not automatically fall heir to the responsibilities either of the League of Nations or of the Mandatory Power in respect of the Palestine Mandate. The record seems to us entirely clear that the United Nations did not take over the League of Nations Mandate system.”

 

United States Ambassador to the United Nations Warren Austin

 

And,

 

“On 2 April 1947, the United Kingdom directed a request to the Secretary-General of the United Nations, the first part of which states:1

 

“His Majesty’s Government in the United Kingdom requests the Secretary-General of the United Nations to place the question of Palestine on the agenda of the General Assembly at its next regular annual session. It will submit to the Assembly an account of its administration of the League of Nations mandate and will ask the Assembly to make recommendations, under Article 10 of the Charter, concerning the future government of Palestine.”

 

Thus, the question of Palestine came before the General Assembly only as a request for a recommendation. No proposal was made by the United Kingdom to the General Assembly that the United Nations itself undertake responsibility for the government of Palestine.”

 

Chris then quotes hasbarrister Cambridge Ph.D. Cynthia Day Wallace,

 

“The U.N. cannot create a Palestinian Arab state until there is a territoral agreement between the Palestinian Authority and Israel as laid down by the Oslo Accords.”

 

Both Israel and the Palestinians can annul the Oslo accords at any time. The UN has also already given recognition to the Palestinians by giving them observer status at the UN.

 

Then we read,

 

“Anyway, U.N. resolutions are not legally binding. They are only recommendations.”

 

How peculiar. Previously, on this very blog, Chris, under the name of “Buster J Bailey” posted this,

 

“Israel actually has a better claim to its existence, having been created by the U.N.”

 

Wait, What!?!

 

He tells us that “Israel actually has a better claim to its existence, having been created by the U.N.” and then he tells us, or at least his “legal luminary” does, that  “… U.N. resolutions are not legally binding.”

 

Quite the contradiction.

 

Then his “legal luminary” tells us that,

 

“In the ECI summary Dr Wallace concludes: “In sum, the conflict is not a traditional conflict over borders – that is not even really the issue, as demonstrated by the fact that national boundaries have gone so long undetermined.”

 

Actually, little miss “legal luminary” Israel declared its borders in 1948 as seen here in a letter to the president of the U.S.A,

 

“MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.”

 

Israel has NEVER legally annexed any territory outside those declared borders.

 

Next we have this,

 

“It is a conflict over historic rights and the internationally recognized need of a unified ‘people’ to have a place( and territorial space) to come ‘home’ to after some 2,000 years of ‘statelessness’ and separation from the Land of their Fathers – the only place that they call ‘holy’ and the only land they have ever called home.’”

 

Jews had no legal claim to the Holy land hence why the wording “Historical connection”. Also, according to a recent DNA study most of today’s Jews are not from the holy land. Although having said that I understand there is talk of other DNA tests that will debunk that theory….We shall wait and see…

 

Then there’s this,

 

“The problem, as it was in 1937, 1947 and 2000-01 is that the Palestinian Arabs refuse to compromise when offered a two-state solution.”

 

Regarding 1937 and 1947 the Arabs, embarrassingly for Chris and his hasbarristers, wanted a one state solution on the lines of the San Remo treaty. Ie. An Arab majority and Jewish minority sharing Palestine with equal rights for both groups. As for 2000-01, I already posted up a blog titled ‘Myth of the generous offer’ and Chris made zero attempt at debunking the article. So we must ask why he mentions it in his blog?

 

Next we have,

 

“Dr Victor Pearce, a noted scientist, archaeologist and theologian, comments in his book ‘Prophecy’, that, as in subsequent wars between Arab and Jew, angelic action on Israel’s side was responsible for the nascent Jewish state achieving victory against all the odds.”

 

Actually the odds in all Arab-Israeli wars have been stacked in Israel’s favour with the possible exception of the 1973 Yom Kippur war. See here for the war of Independence,

 

http://users.ox.ac.uk/~ssfc0005%20/Israel%20and%20the%20Arab%20Coalition%20in%2019481.html

 

Now for what is for me the most alarming piece of Chris’s blog.

 

“In doing so, the Jewish King Jesus will say to Gentile nations supporting Israel: “… inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.”

 

I’ve already debunked that particular Zionist perversion of the bible here ,

 

https://christiansforzionwatch.wordpress.com/2013/09/29/why-are-christians-for-zion-perverting-the-bible/

 

Once again, despite numerous comments, Chris made no attempt to make a case as to why CfZ should make that particular claim. Also, if we read CfZ liar and Bible perverter in chief Mike Fryer’s latest blog we find him once again making the claim but he, Fryer, doesn’t stop there. He also says the following,

 

“You see without Israel or the Jewish there is no God.”

 

I assume he missed out the word ‘people’ after Jewish. In recent weeks I have noticed that Christian Zionists are trying to blackmail their fellow Christians into supporting Israel’s land theft and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian Arabs by making claims such as the two mentioned above and the following two claims.

 

“if it wasn’t for the Jews there would be no Bible” and “if it wasn’t for the Jews there would be no Christianity” Any Christian, true Christian reading these claims will be alarmed already. For those who are not so sure I will post these quotes from the New Testament gospel of John.

 

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.”

 

John Ch 1

 

“58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”

 

John Ch 8.

 

We thank God for his word. We thank God for Jews who sacrificed much for their faith in Jesus.

 

We DON’T thank Jews for God. We DON’T thank Jews for the bible. If we did we would be committing Idolatry.

 

Please don’t ever believe a word that these Christian Zionists say….It may lead you into a pit!

 

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Did You Know…?

1. That Israel’s first PM, David Ben Gurion while still living in his native Polish town of Plonsk was part of a gang of thugs who extorted money from wealthy Jews.

 

2. Chaim Weizmann, Israel’s first president considered 1.5 million Jews who survived the Nazis as nothing more than “human dust”

 

3. Golda Meir “raised the possibility of preventing handicapped and sick Polish Jews from immigrating to Israel”

 

4. Ariel Sharon is a war criminal for his part in the Sabra and Shatilla massacres.

 

5. Jewish terrorist group the Stern gang made attempts to collaborate with the Nazis.

 

6. The Stern gang, under the leadership of Yitzhak Shamir, assassinated Folke Bernadotte. Bernadotte had helped Jews escape the Nazi death camps. Zionists also assassinated his character after his death by lying that Bernadotte was ‘Anti Semitic’.

 

7. A memorial ceremony attended by Israeli politicians and government officials is held each year at Stern’s grave in the Nahalat Yitzhak cemetery in Tel Aviv. In 1978, a postage stamp was issued in his honor.

In 1981 the town of Kochav Yair (Yair’s Star) was founded and named after Stern’s nickname.

 

8. Israel devised plan Dalet and started ethnically cleansing Palestinian villages before Israel had declared its independence.

 

9. Arabs from the village of Huj hid and protected the Jewish Haganah from a British dragnet. It has even been reported that the villagers executed their fellow Arabs who they suspected of collaborating with the British. Zionists repaid the Arabs by ethnically cleansing them from their village. The village is now a Jewish town called Sderot.

 

10. In 1935 when most of the rest of the world was boycotting Nazi Germany the WZO/Jewish agency were forming partnerships with the Third Reich.

 

11. “A pact was signed by Dr. Rudolph Kastner of the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and Nazi exterminator Adolph Eichmann in 1944 allowing 600 prominent Jews to leave in exchange for Zionist silence on the fate of the remainder.”

 

12. In the 1950s Zionists carried out false flag terrorist attacks [Operation Susannah. AKA. The Lavon Affair] inside Egypt. Israel denied this for a long time then in 2005 Israel honoured the surviving terrorists.

 

13. Yasser Arafat recognized Israel’s right to exist.

 

14. That during operation ‘Cast Lead’ Rabbis and extremists gave messages of support to the idf such as,

 

“Baruch the Man,” which praises Baruch Goldstein, who massacred unarmed Palestinians in Hebron. It calls on “soldiers of Israel to spare your lives and the lives of your friends and not to show concern for a population that surrounds us and harms us. We call on you … to function according to the law ‘kill the one who comes to kill you.’ As for the population, it is not innocent … We call on you to ignore any strange doctrines and orders that confuse the logical way of fighting the enemy.”

 

15. Shlomo Ben-Ami, Israel’s Foreign Minister and key negotiator at Camp David had this to say about the mythical Zionist ‘generous offer’,

 

“Camp David was not the missed opportunity for the Palestinians, and if I were a Palestinian I would have rejected Camp David, as well.”

 

16. That Zionists often spread the Hasbara story that Hamas carried out a ‘bloody coup’ against Fatah in Gaza when in fact the opposite is true…Backed and funded by the G.W.Bush administration.

 

Never believe a word that comes out of a Zionists mouth!

 

1.http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=UEQggnBIUUgC&lpg=PA340&ots=tIPwVKVYFM&dq=the+abc+of+zionist+policy+by+david+%22ben+gurion%22&pg=PA198&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

2. http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/FRUS/FRUS-idx?type=goto&id=FRUS.FRUS1940v03&isize=M&submit=Go+to+page&page=837

 

3. http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/golda-meir-told-poland-don-t-send-sick-or-disabled-jews-to-israel-1.2523

 

4. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/fisk/ariel-sharon-by-robert-fisk-521809.html

 

5. http://articles.latimes.com/1989-03-07/news/mn-330_1_stern-gang

 

6. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israels-forgotten-hero-the-assassination-of-count-bernadotte–and-the-death-of-peace-934094.html

 

7. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avraham_Stern#Death

 

8. http://www.jmcc.org/Documentsandmaps.aspx?id=755

 

9. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/the-suffering-of-sderot-how-its-true-inhabitants-were-wiped-from-israels-maps-and-memories-8348734.html

 

10. http://www.jta.org/1935/09/04/archive/favor-transfer-agreement-continuance

 

11. http://www.solidarity-us.org/site/node/154

 

12. http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3065838,00.html#n

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

 

13. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/recogn.html

 

14. http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/idf-rabbinate-publication-during-gaza-war-we-will-show-no-mercy-on-the-cruel-1.268849

 

15. http://www.democracynow.org/2006/2/14/fmr_israeli_foreign_minister_if_i

 

16. http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/04/gaza200804

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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