A Latter Day Joseph Goebbels.

Prolific liar and Hasbarist Chris Proudlove is at it again. This time he repeats a lie that was previously debunked here,

  https://christiansforzionwatch.wordpress.com/2013/06/24/when-is-it-ok-to-lie/

His lie is that “Resolution 242, passed by the UN Security Council following the war, gave implicit recognition to Israeli territorial conquests and affirmed Israel’s right to safe and secure boundaries.”

Here’s the truth.

From the preamble of UNSC resolution 242,

” The Security Council,

 Expressing its continuing concern with the grave situation in the Middle East,

 Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security,”

Note how Proudlove attempts to give the impression that Only Israel has the right to live in “safe and secure boundaries” ?

Here’s a quote from author of the resolution,  Lord Caradon

“Knowing as I did the unsatisfactory nature of the 1967 line I was not prepared to use wording in the Resolution which would have made that line permanent. Nevertheless it is necessary to say again that the overriding principle was the “inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war” and that meant that there could be no justification for annexation of territory on the Arab side of the 1967 line merely because it had been conquered in the 1967 war.”

Let’s wait and see if he comes clean to his fellow “Christians” on the CfZ website.

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  1. Christopher Proudlove

    Well, ‘Trevor Barclay’, the administrator of this sickeningly biased website which foments anti-Semitic hate has once again been hoist by his own petard. When a’TB’ccused me of “getting tangled in your own web of deceit,” I countered: “This is typical ‘Trevor Barclay’ besmirching. Where did he learn this Machiavellian skill? Was it Goebbels, the KGB, or the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) et al or is he just one of nature’s Trotskyites?”
    It is not the first time I have compared ‘TB’ to Josef Goebbels, Hitler’s chief propagandist. Now, after accusing me of plagiarism, Trevor copies me by falsely accusing me of being ‘a latter day Josef Goebbels.’
    Like Goebbels, ‘TB’ specifies targets for hatred. The villification used paints a grossly exaggerated and untruthful picture of the person he has targeted. Take the recent example of Alan Dershowitz whom ‘TB’ accuses of plagiarism. Despite me correcting this false character assassination in the past , TB chooses to show that a leopard cannot change his spots and repeats the lie. Trevor has poured scorn a number of times on Dershowitz as he follows the tactic of besmirching in the hope that this will stick in the minds of readers. Researching Dershowitz you find he has a glittering career record. Yet our malicious TB only pours scorn on him.
    This is what Wikipedia says of Alan Dershowitz: “Alan Morton Dershowitz (born September 1, 1938) is an American lawyer, jurist, and political commentator. He is a prominent scholar on United States constitutional law and criminal law. He has spent most of his career at Harvard Law School where in 1967, at the age of 28, he became the youngest full professor of law in its history. He has held the Felix Frankfurter professorship there since 1993.[1] Dershowitz retired from teaching at Harvard Law in December 2013.[2]
    Dershowitz is known for his involvement in several high-profile legal cases and as a commentator on the Arab–Israeli conflict. As a criminal appellate lawyer, he has won 13 of the 15 murder and attempted murder cases he has handled, and has represented a series of celebrity clients, including Mike Tyson, Patty Hearst, and Jim Bakker.[3] His most notable cases include his role in 1984 in overturning the conviction of Claus von Bülow for the attempted murder of his wife, Sunny, and as the appellate adviser for the defense in the O.J. Simpson murder trial in 1995.[4]
    A political liberal,[5][6][7][8] he is the author of a number of books about politics and law, including Reversal of Fortune: Inside the von Bülow Case (1985), the basis of the 1990 film; Chutzpah (1991); Reasonable Doubts: The Criminal Justice System and the O.J. Simpson Case (1996); the best-selling The Case for Israel (2003); Rights From Wrongs: A Secular Theory of the Origins of Rights (2004)[9] and The Case for Peace (2005).”
    Goebbels specified that ppropagandists must label events and people with distinctive phrases or slogans. Hence he continually tars me with the false label of a ‘liar’ and other malicious epithets. That’s how the Nazis repeatedly used black propaganda to libel and slander the Jews. That’s how Jews became sub-human, the cause of all the world’s ills, and then disposed of in the Nazi death camps.

  2. lol you can’t defend your lie so you go into a preposterous rant about Dershowitz.

    This tells us clearly that not only are you a liar but that YOU KNOW YOU ARE A LIAR!

    Will you come clean about the UNSC res 242 to your fellow “Christians” on the CfZ website or are you happy for them to believe the lie?.

    • Christopher Proudlove

      Now, folks, you see what I mean about ‘Trevor Barclay.’ He like, Goebbels will swear black is really white. I do not purposely lie. Like all humans I am susceptible to making mistakes and will admit to being wrong. I don’t resort to insults when I’m proved wrong either. Happy Hogmanay to everywone, including TB

  3. Christopher Proudlove

    I am happy to clarify matters concerning Resolution 242 at the United Nations. First, the resolution was rejected by Arab states but accepted by Israel. Israel was willing to trade land captured in a defensive war to attain peace. Years later they did this with the Egyptians handing back the Sinai and also doing a deal with the Jordanians. Syria still refuses to accept resolution 242. This was the first time in history that a nation had been ordered to return territories captured lawfully in a defensive war. But the resolution was only ordered as part of an overall peace agreement recognising Israel’s right to live in secure territory. It must be remembered that almost straight away Israel agreed to comply with the resolution despite the Arab armies pledging to annihilate Israel in 1967.
    The response to Resolution 242 at the Arab League Summit in November 1967 was: “No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel.
    The Soviet Union delegate at the UN Security Council in November 1967 stated: “Part of these territories can remain in Israeli hands.”
    Britain’s Lord Caradon told the Beirut Daily Star newspaper (12/6/1974): “It would have been wrong to demand that Israel return to its positions of June 4th, 1967, because those positions were undesirable and artificial.”
    Israel ordered all 10,000 Jews from the Gaza Strip, some forcibly, in a gesture that was supposed to stop rocket attacks and terrorism from the coastal territory. Palestinian Arabs did not keep their part of the bargain and have continued to attack innocent Israelis. Instead of improving the infrastructure of the Strip the present Hamas government there has continued to use cement to build concrete tunnels. Some of these tunnels are used for terrorism.
    Israel has also offered on two occasions to hand land in Samaria and Judea to the Palestinian Arabs in an exchange for peace. Palestinians rejected this offer and I am not optimistic the current negotiations being brokered by American envoy John Kerry will be successfully completed. Palestinian Authority leader Mahmoud Abbas knows he will be a dead man if he agrees a peace pact. He fears being assassinated just as Egyptian president Anwar Sadat was when he concluded a peace deal with Israel.
    I regret the wording that this website has quoted, namely that “Resolution 242 gave implicit recognition to Israeli territorial conquests and affirmed Israel’s right to safe and secure boundaries.” The word “some” is missing between “to” and “Israeli.”
    However these words on this website, “Note how Proudlove attempts to give the impression that only Israel has the right to live in “safe and secure boundaries” is wrong. I want the whole region to live in safe and secure boundaries. I am horrified what is going on in Syria, Egypt, Libya and Lebanon.

  4. “I do not purposely lie. Like all humans I am susceptible to making mistakes and will admit to being wrong.”

    On June 24 i pointed out your “mistake” on December 27 you repeated the “mistake”

    Will you now, without the added propaganda, go and explain on the CfZ website that you were “mistaken” regarding 242?

    Once you’ve done that i’ll give you kudos.

    • Christopher Proudlove

      I always intended to reply to your post about Resolution 242 but have been bogged down replying to all the other misnformation you post. Now people can see that truth is not always the whole truth and who the bad boys really are!

  5. Chris, can you tell me from which site you lifted huge parts of your latest blog from?

    • Christopher Proudlove

      ‘Trevor Barclay:’ Chris, can you tell me from which site you lifted huge parts of your latest blog from?
      I did not lift them from any website.
      I’ll see what I can do about the correction of the CfZ website but I do not have the last say on this.

  6. “I did not lift them from any website.”

    It’s disappointing that you should post such an obvious and easily checked lie.

    From your blog dated December 27

    “On April 7, 1967, Israeli Mirages and Syria Mig-21 jets clashed over the borders of Syria and northern Israel and six Migs were downed for no Israeli losses. Syrian artillery fire on Israeli villages precipitated the aerial engagement.”

    From Front Page Mag dated April 11

    “On April 7, 1967 Israeli Mirages and Syria Mig-21s dueled over the skies of Syria and northern Israel and six Migs were downed for no Israeli losses. Like the current day situation in Gaza, where Islamist rocket fire on civilian areas inexorably draws Israeli counter fire, Syrian artillery fire on Israeli villages precipitated the aerial engagement. And like the Gazan Islamists of today, the Syrians cried foul after being bloodied by the Israelis.”

    From your blog dated December 27

    “On May 15, and with much fanfare, President Nasser deployed two Egyptian divisions in Sinai. On May 16, he ordered U.N. peacekeeping forces that had hitherto served as a buffer between Israeli and Egyptian forces, out of Sinai. On May 19, Egyptian troop strength swelled to six divisions, with a seventh added soon after. On May 22, Nasser ordered the closure of the Straits of Tiran at the entrance to the Gulf of Eilat to Israeli shipping. The closure was a gross violation of international maritime law and constituted a casus belli (an act or event that provokes or is used to justify war).”

    From Front Page Mag dated April 11

    “On May 15 and with much fanfare and publicity, President Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt deployed two Egyptian divisions in Sinai. On May 16, he ordered U.N. peacekeeping forces, who had hitherto served as a buffer between Israeli and Egyptian forces, out of Sinai. On May 19, Egyptian troop strength swelled to six divisions, with a seventh added soon after. On May 22, Nasser ordered the closure of the Straits of Tiran at the entrance to the Gulf of Eilat, to Israeli shipping. The closure was a gross violation of international maritime law and constituted a casus belli.”

    From your blog dated December 27

    “On May 30, Jordan and Egypt established a joint military command and Jordan placed its armed forces under Egyptian control. Soon after, Egyptian paratrooper battalions landed in Jordan and on June 3, they were joined by Iraqi contingents. On June 2, an Egyptian mortar attack set Israeli wheat fields on fire and Egyptian aerial incursions into Israeli territory were occurring with alarming frequency.

    Israel was surrounded with countries bent on its annihilation. The Arab street, fed by blood-curdling, anti-Semitic government propaganda, was whipped into frenzy and an orgy of hate and depravity swept through the Arab world. It was clear that the Arabs had foreclosed any possibility of peaceful coexistence with Israel. If there were any doubts about Arab intentions, Radio Cairo dispelled them on May 22 when it declared: “The Arab people is firmly resolved to wipe Israel off the map.” Israel, for its part attempted to quell Arab aggression through diplomatic means but to no avail. Thus Israel, with its back to the wall and faced with overt threats of annihilation, acted decisively. On June 5, 1967 the outnumbered and out gunned Israeli Defence Forces launched a pre-emptive strike and within six days, destroyed the armies of those sworn to her destruction.”

    Front Page Mag April 11

    “On May 30th Jordan and Egypt established a joint military command and Jordan placed its armed forces under Egyptian control. Soon after, Egyptian paratroop battalions landed in Jordan and on June 3, they were joined by Iraqi contingents. On June 2, an Egyptian mortar attack set Israeli wheat fields on fire and Egyptian aerial incursions into Israeli territory were occurring with alarming frequency.

    Israel was surrounded with countries bent on its annihilation. The Arab street, fed by blood-curdling, anti-Semitic government propaganda, was whipped into frenzy and an orgy of hate and depravity swept through the Arab world. It was clear that the Arabs had foreclosed any possibility of peaceful coexistence with Israel. If there were any doubts about Arab intentions, Radio Cairo dispelled them on May 22 when it declared, “The Arab people is firmly resolved to wipe Israel off the map.” Israel for its part attempted to quell Arab aggression through diplomatic means but to no avail. The Soviets were actively stoking the flames of war while France, wishing to curry favor with the Arabs, turned its back. The British and Americans offered sympathy and little else.”

    On June 13 you posted a blog containing the same as above and at the bottom of that blog you say,

    “I’m obliged to Ari Leiberman for some Six Day War facts.”

    But there’s no such mention in your blog of December 27 nor did you provide quotations to show which “facts” were yours and which facts were Mr Lieberman’s in either your June 13 or December 27 blog. Although as can be plainly seen all your “facts” , lies and all, belonged to Mr Lieberman.

    Once again you are caught plagiarising…And Lieberman is caught lying about UNSC res 242. Which makes me wonder what other lies are contained in his and by extension your ramble?

    “Now people can see that truth is not always the whole truth and who the bad boys really are!”

    Indeed we can, Chris, and it doesn’t look good on you.

    Btw what “misinformation” of mines are you talking about?

  7. Christopher Proudlove

    “I did not lift them from any website.”

    ‘Trevor Barclay:’ It’s disappointing that you should post such an obvious and easily checked lie.’

    It’s true, ‘Trevor Barclay,’ I did not get the information from my latest blog on Res. 242 off the internet. There are books, you know.
    Your false accusation is yet more misinformation.
    I’ve clarified my position on Resolution 242. There are many other examples of yours which need answering too. Maybe I’ll get round to it one day.
    I must do better when it comes to quoting references though. I’ll save matter for possible future reference and not make sure the piece is named. Thanks for filling in the blanks and repeating the pro-Israel information. The BBC should have known all this. I am glad to have put them right.

  8. Wow…What a low down liar you are.

    Can you furnish me with the name[s] of the book[s] you plagiarised from?

    It’s also noted that thus far you haven’t come clean about the res 242 lie to your fellow “Christians”

  9. Christopher Proudlove

    To prove I am not the low-down liar that ‘Trevor Barclay’ falsely accuses me of being I can gladly furnish him with the books I used in my reply about the United Nations Resolution 242.
    They were best-selling ‘The Case for Israel,’ by Alan Dershowitz published by John Wiley and Sons and ‘Arabs Speak Frankly’ complied by Naomi Comay published by Printing Miracles Ltd.
    The newly retired Harvard Professor Dershowitz is regarded as a legal luminary in the United States and beyond and as such is vilified by ‘TB.’ Chapter 14 of his book entitled ‘Was the Israeli Occupation without Justification?’ is a must read for those who wish to know the whole truth on this issue and not the part truth promulgated by the likes of ‘TB.’
    Writing the foreword of ‘Arabs Speak Frankly,’ the former Palestinian Liberation Organisation terrorist Walid Shoebat states that it “is a well overdue book that is badly needed to not only show that there are many Arabs who support the democratic Israel but to counter balance many of the distortions apparent in the Western media. I am happy both to endorse the contents of this book as well as to participate in the dialogue. ”
    I am tied down by a family health issue at the moment and have yet to write a further article on Resolution 242 and other issues on this flawed website.
    Meanwhile, would ‘TB’ inform us if he personally compiled the item on ‘A Veil of Tears for the Virgin Birth,’ or copied it from someone else?

  10. You lifted huge chunks of your blog from the Ari Lieberman ramble on fpm and tried to pass it off as your own.

    Ari Lieberman April 11: “Even the traditionally hostile United Nations, which had condemned past Israeli defensive actions in knee-jerking fashion, refused to condemn her this time. In fact, Resolution 242, passed by the UN Security Council following the war, gave implicit recognition to Israeli territorial conquests and affirmed Israel’s right to safe and secure boundaries.”

    Proudlove June 13 & December 27:”Israel acted in self-defence. Even the United Nations General Assembly, now traditional hostile to Israel, which had condemned past Israeli defensive actions in knee-jerk fashion, refused to condemn her this time. Resolution 242, passed by the UN Security Council following the war, gave implicit recognition to Israeli territorial conquests and affirmed Israel’s right to safe and secure boundaries.”

    That along with my previous post above show that you are a liar!

    WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO COME CLEAN TO YOUR FELLOW “CHRISTIANS” ON THE CfZ WEBSITE REGARDING YOUR LIE ABOUT UNSC RES 242…AND WILL YOU ALSO CITE FOR THEM WHERE YOU STOLE YOUR “FACTS”

    “Meanwhile, would ‘TB’ inform us if he personally compiled the item on ‘A Veil of Tears for the Virgin Birth,’ or copied it from someone else?”

    If you are making an accusation then i suggest you back it up with proof!?!

  11. Christopher Proudlove

    I asked a simple question. Please answer. Stop trying to wriggle out of things in your usual slippery manner. By not answering the question you are open to people concluding that you plagiarised ‘A veil of tears for the Virgin Birth.’ What we do know is that you plagiarised the headline. It is from a well-known song.

  12. Christopher Proudlove

    I am not writing theses for a university degree but I will be more careful to cite books and website links when appropriate. The facts about the 1967 Six Day War are well known. I lived through it, and know what went on. Did you not once write that Israel started the Six Day War, ‘Trevor.?’

  13. oneof5

    Chris,

    If I were you I’d seriously be considering doing the hari-kari thing … but then I’m a man of honor … something I’m sure you’re thoroughly unfamiliar with …

    You just keep chucking out the lies, the misrepresentations, the plagiarism with absolutely no shame whatsoever … what a pathetic little hasbarat …

    Excuse me … I have to go take a shower …

  14. Christopher Proudlove

    Quite right about the shower. We can all smell the anti-Semitism. ‘Man of honour?’ Come off it! You are learning the dark arts from ‘Trevor Barclay.’

  15. Christopher Proudlove

    I credited Ari Leiberman for some of the facts I used concerning the 1967 Six-Day War, which this website has acknowledged. The facts are well-known and I wish I had written them in my own words. Yes, I later re-used some of the paragraphs and I regret not crediting Ari Leiberman again. The BBC Trust has accepted my point that the Six-Day War was not started by Israel and I have no doubt that Ari Leiberman would be pleased that someone challenged the erroneous view of the conflict that was perpetrated by Dan Snow’s commentary.
    The administrator of this website, who we are led to believe is one ‘Trevor Barclay,’ has opined in response to me in the Christians for Zion columns that Israel started the Six-Day War. If he does not retract this view we can conclude that he has been hoist by his own petard. In other words a non-answer will show that he is a LIAR, a criticism he freely tars other with.
    I have challenged him to say whether or not he has ever knowingly told a lie, but, so far, he has refused to answer. Some say a white lie is permissible. Society as a whole colludes with the notion that there is a real Santa Claus so that little children stay ‘believers.’ If we are honest with ourselves we have all told lies, ‘Trevor Barclay’ included.
    I have watched Finkelstein on TV and do not share his conclusions regarding Israel. Most Jews do not share his preposterous opinions. I intend to watch the TV clip that ‘TB’ placed on the website. Glancing through Steve Maltz’s book ‘Israel: Outcast Nation’ I was struck by a comment of his that he is fearful of appearing on TV and being quizzed by a slippery interviewer and being nonplussed by the questions. I will see if this applies to Alan Dershowitz. What I can say is that academia and media commentators are not dismissive of Dershowitz and would heartily disagree with ‘Trevor Barclay’s’ traducing of him. ‘TB’ is just being his usual insulting self despite Dershowitz being an advocate of a two-state solution between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, a view that ‘TB’ espouses.
    ‘Trevor Barclay’ has so far refused to answer a simple question of mine: Did he write the blog he posted on ‘A veil of tears for the Virgin Birth?’ The fact that he has not answered, in most people’s eyes, will show that he is a DISSEMBLER and a HYPOCRITE. We all know he PLAGIARISED the headline because it is taken from a well-known Christmas song. What we want to know now is did he write the copy that accompanied his plagiarised headline? I think it is a case of what goes round comes round!

  16. “Trevor Barclay’ has so far refused to answer a simple question of mine: Did he write the blog he posted on ‘A veil of tears for the Virgin Birth?’ The fact that he has not answered, in most people’s eyes, will show that he is a DISSEMBLER and a HYPOCRITE. We all know he PLAGIARISED the headline because it is taken from a well-known Christmas song. What we want to know now is did he write the copy that accompanied his plagiarised headline? I think it is a case of what goes round comes round!”

    You really are one sick puppy. In order to try and hide your own plagiarism and lies you concoct what must be the most pitiful comment in the history of internet commentary. Do you see the quotation marks in the headline? That denotes that it is not my work. But you’re so thick and full of lies that you will attempt anything to try and save face.

    Here’s another example of your plagiarism and dishonesty.

    Christopher Proudlove
    October 16, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    “Has Christians for Zion Watch, i.e. Trevor Barclay, ever heard of khuda’a, a term that has been used by Muslims to describe the need to mislead the enemy and make sure that it does not decipher one’s true intentions?.Is the one-man smearer-in-chief of this pernicious website aware of taqiyya? This is a similar Islamic concept which allows Muslims to deceive the enemy and lie to it.?”

    Israel Hayom Monday October 14, 2013

    “Has The New York Times ever heard of khuda’a, a term that has been used by Muslims to describe the need to mislead the enemy and make sure that it does not decipher one’s true intentions? Was Friedman aware of taqiyya — a similar Islamic concept which allows Muslims to deceive the enemy and lie to it…”

    Most of the rest of your comment in that blog was stolen and plagiarised from the ultra bigoted Front Page Magazine.

    You really are an odious liar…Btw, it’s noted that your lie regarding UNSC res 242 still stands on the CfZ website. Why are you not coming clean to your fellow “Christians”? Why haven’t you come clean that you plagiarised your “facts” from FPM…Are you happy to let the odious lie stand and therefore hoodwink your fellow “Christians” into believing the lie and perhaps even “get cracking” and write letters to newspapers and repeat the lie?

    “The administrator of this website, who we are led to believe is one ‘Trevor Barclay,’ has opined in response to me in the Christians for Zion columns that Israel started the Six-Day War. If he does not retract this view we can conclude that he has been hoist by his own petard. In other words a non-answer will show that he is a LIAR, a criticism he freely tars other with.”

    Quote me and leave a link directly to where i said the above so we can all see the context…and by link i don’t mean a link to the odious,bigoted,lying, heretical and idolatrous CfZ homepage.

    YOU HAVE UNTIL FRIDAY!

    “Quite right about the shower. We can all smell the anti-Semitism. ‘Man of honour?’ Come off it! You are learning the dark arts from ‘Trevor Barclay.’”

    Are you Jewish, Chris…No! So tell me, how can it be “Anti Semitic”?

    Once again you cheapen and soil the term “Anti Semitic”

    You have no shame.

  17. Christopher Proudlove

    I’m so busy writing comments from this website, caring for a bed-ridden aunt, that I haven’t yet written a new blog about UN resolution 242, but believe me, it will come. Have patience.
    Yet more bluster from ‘Trevor Barclay,’ as he refused to answer my question did he write the article or not on ‘A veil of tears for the Virgin Birth? I repeat: The fact that he has not answered, in most people’s eyes, will show that he is a DISSEMBLER and a HYPOCRITE. ’
    How can Oneof5 be a man of honour when he suggests I should commit suicide? Also his use of “pathetic little hasbarat” confirms to me that he is anti-Semitic.

  18. Christopher Proudlove

    ‘Trevor Barclay’ administrator of this anti- Israel website is trying to wriggle out of my claim that he stated, on the Christians for Zion website, that Israel started the Six-Day War. I will endeavour to find the quote since he will not come clean about this himself. It was some time ago and may have been deleted, though.
    In the meantime, I will make sure I attribute remarks to the right quarter. All the work I do to support the biblical view of Israel and Israel’s right to exist is voluntary. While I admit to using material from various websites to counter the false claims made on CfZW it would not be right for me to have made money out of other people’s work. No doubt the words I have quoted would have been viewed with favour by the original publisher as we are both sticking up for the same causes.

  19. “Yet more bluster from ‘Trevor Barclay,’ as he refused to answer my question did he write the article or not on ‘A veil of tears for the Virgin Birth? I repeat: The fact that he has not answered, in most people’s eyes, will show that he is a DISSEMBLER and a HYPOCRITE. ’”

    What is it that you fail to grasp regarding quotation marks?

    Where you see quotation marks, that denotes not my work. Where there is an absence of quotation marks, that denotes my work.

    So if you are accusing me of plagiarism then i suggest you put up or shut up!?!

    “‘Trevor Barclay’ administrator of this anti- Israel website is trying to wriggle out of my claim that he stated, on the Christians for Zion website, that Israel started the Six-Day War. I will endeavour to find the quote since he will not come clean about this himself.”

    It’s up to you to back up your claim and cite a direct link so we can see the context.

    “It was some time ago and may have been deleted, though.”

    lol.

    ” While I admit to using material from various websites to counter the false claims made on CfZW …”

    What false claims has any of your propaganda copy/pastes countered?

    The only person who cant see how ignorant you and your posts are is you and to be honest, my patience is wearing helluva thin with your constant lies and propaganda….Take heed, Chris!

  20. Christopher Proudflove

    I accept what you say about the quotation marks on the headline and Bible text. But the rest of the article is not in quotation marks. The fact that ‘Trevor Barclay’ has not yet answered whether he wrote the entire article, in most people’s eyes, will show that he is a DISSEMBLER and a HYPOCRITE. ’”
    As to the 1967 Six-Day War I am asking ‘Trevor Barclay’, the administrator of this website to name the country or countries that started this war. If he does not then I think we can all conclude he has something to hide.

  21. “But the rest of the article is not in quotation marks. The fact that ‘Trevor Barclay’ has not yet answered whether he wrote the entire article, in most people’s eyes, will show that he is a DISSEMBLER and a HYPOCRITE.”

    Wow! Here’s what i already told you,

    Where there is an absence of quotation marks, that denotes my work.

    Are you really that thick that you dont understand the above?

    “As to the 1967 Six-Day War I am asking ‘Trevor Barclay’, the administrator of this website to name the country or countries that started this war. If he does not then I think we can all conclude he has something to hide.”

    Erm, no, that was not what you said. Here is what you said,

    “The administrator of this website, who we are led to believe is one ‘Trevor Barclay,’ has opined in response to me in the Christians for Zion columns that Israel started the Six-Day War. If he does not retract this view we can conclude that he has been hoist by his own petard. In other words a non-answer will show that he is a LIAR, a criticism he freely tars other with.”

    Back to you to post the comment and a link so we can see what the context of my alleged comment.

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