Gush Katif, Hurricane Katrina And The “Wrath Of God”.

So there I was yesterday just browsing through some blogs when this title caught my eye ‘US ‘Will Force’ Israel-PA Deal’ Yay I thought to myself at last America is going to put its foot down. So I read through the blog and then the comments where I noticed this,

“Anytime the United States sides against Israel you can expect a Heavenly response to an attack on Israel by any country that sides against it. So as an American we will see Divine wrath directed toward the United States.”

So I commented…America gives Israel $3 Billion per year in military aid. So why would God punish America for pushing through a peace plan.?

What happened or rather what was said after a short exchange repulsed me. Here’s what the blogger, iamnotashamedofthegospelofchrist said in one of his comments,

“The same time Katrina hit the US, the same percentage of Jews that were displaced by the agreement is the same percentage of Americans that were displaced by Katrina. Oh and yes, after that forced evacuation, Sharon had a stroke and has been in a coma ever since. I suggest you stop believing in a false doctrine and dig into the scriptures like Romans to find out about the Jewish people and what will happen if we curse them. I will pray for God to open your eyes.”

How can anyone who claims to know God make such an odious statement? What we have here is a “Christian” Zionist telling us that God sent Hurricane Katrina to punish America for its part in the withdrawal of settlers from the Gush Katif settlement in Gaza. Over 1800 people lost their lives during Katrina and I’d wager none of the deceased had a say in the Gush Katif withdrawal.  But according to theses crazed “Christian” Zionists that’s the way God works. Apparently God kills and displaces innocent people whenever Israel is “Attacked”

Please don’t believe a word that comes out of a “Christian” Zionists mouth

http://iamnotashamedofthegospelofchrist.com/2013/11/04/us-will-force-israel-pa-deal/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina

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13 Comments

November 5, 2013 · 8:08 pm

13 responses to “Gush Katif, Hurricane Katrina And The “Wrath Of God”.

  1. Christopher Proudlove

    The horrendous death toll and damage done in the New Orleans region by Hurricane Katrina was in part due to the authorities who ignored warnings that the flood defence systems needed vast improvements.
    In the Book of Genesis, Chapter 12, Verse 1-3, we see what God says about His response to how people treat Israel: “And I will bless those that bless you and curse the one who curses you. And in you shall all families of the earth be blessed.”
    If God does not curse nations who treat Israel badly then He is a liar but we know that this is not so.
    Jeremiah 25:31 tells us that “the LORD has a controversy with the nations” which He will settle in due time. This is still operative today. I remember not so many years back when Somalia and Yugoslavia were the two countries using the biased United Nations to harass Israel. Where are those two countries now?
    Israel has always considered Syria its main enemy. In March 1990 the Bangkok Post quoted Syria’s then President, Hafez Assad, as saying his country’s holy war against the Jewish state would last “as long as time.” History shows Syria as one of Israel’s most implacable, and certainly its cruellest enemy. Where is Syria now?

  2. And there we have it people. Chris agrees that God murders innocent people because of the alleged wrongdoing of their leaders.

    No more evidence is required of how mad, bad, deranged, dangerous and evil Christian Zionism is.

  3. Christopher proudlove

    Please explain the above comment.

  4. Christopher proudlove

    The Bible tells us that God is love (1John 4:8). It also states that He is the God of vengeance and recompense (Deuteronomy 32:35), a consuming fire (Hebrews 12:29), and a habitation of justice (Jeremiah 50:7). Scriptures show the LORD intends to use Israel as a template to execute judgements and His severity will begin with the Church.
    The Bible teaches us that all people are sinners. Our Holy God can do as He wishes.
    Are you saying, Trevor, that God was wrong to wipe out the human race for all but eight people during Noah’s Flood?

  5. I need explain nothing to you. Besides everyone can now see your comment and those of us who are not extremists can see you lot for exactly what you are, mad, bad, deranged, dangerous and evil.

    Not to mention pathetic and bigoted liars.

    This site will no longer publish your lies or hate rhetoric which must be a relief to you as you can’t answer the questions posed. But i already know you can’t answer them without lying anyway.

    Absolutely sickening.

  6. Do you agree with the following, Chris?

    ” ‘And they the hunters should hunt them,’ that will be the Jews. ‘From every mountain and from every hill and from out of the holes of the rocks.’ If that doesn’t describe what Hitler did in the Holocaust, you can’t see that.”

    “Theodore Hertzel is the father of Zionism. He was a Jew who at the turn of the 19th century said, this land is our land, God wants us to live there. So he went to the Jews of Europe and said ‘I want you to come and join me in the land of Israel.’ So few went that Hertzel went into depression. Those who came founded Israel; those who did not went through the hell of the Holocaust.”

    “Then God sent a hunter. A hunter is someone with a gun and he forces you. Hitler was a hunter. And the Bible says — Jeremiah writing — ‘They shall hunt them from every mountain and from every hill and from the holes of the rocks,’ meaning there’s no place to hide. And that might be offensive to some people but don’t let your heart be offended. I didn’t write it, Jeremiah wrote it. It was the truth and it is the truth. How did it happen? Because God allowed it to happen. Why did it happen? Because God said my top priority for the Jewish people is to get them to come back to the land of Israel.”

  7. Christopher Proudlove

    When I attended a Christians for Zion Hidden Treasures course in Hazel Grove Stockport there was a lady there who had spent some years in the Soviet Union helping Jews to make aliyah to Israel. The effort she and her colleagues made to trace Jews caused them to believe they were the hunters Jeremiah wrote about.

  8. Christopher Proudlove

    Hertzl boasted there would be a state of Israel within 50 years. He was right about that.

  9. Christopher Proudlove

    There would have been no Hurricane Katrina catastrophe if America had heeded warnings about the susceptibility of the sea defences in the New Orleans region. I know that Jesus Christ spoke about roaring seas prior to His Second Come (Luke 21:25). We are certainly seeing that. Some scientists claim the increased ferocity of hurricanes is man’s fault because we have not done enough to stop global warming. I cannot say one way or the other whether it was God’s judgement on the United States to send Hurricane Katrina. All I know is that God will judge the nations for the way in which they treated his Chosen People.

  10. Christopher Proudlove

    A guest post by journalist Amanda Ruth Thomas on the Christian Middle East Watch website explains how Great Britain’s plunge in world status is because of its treatment of Jews. She writes:

    As a Brit myself, and one who is not Jewish but who has lived and worked in the Jewish State, it pains me to say that a real arrogance has characterised our treatment of Israel throughout history, but especially while carrying out our Mandate for Palestine.
    Film director Hugh Kitson devotes his life and work to the reversal of this sad fact. On behalf of Love Never Fails, an alliance of 22 British Christian organisations, Kitson apologised Sunday evening to an audience of Israelis who were touched in some way by British wrongdoing during the Mandate years, 1917-1948.
    The apology followed the premiere of Kitson’s film, ‘The Forsaken Promise’, re-released with Hebrew subtitles, at the Jerusalem Begin Heritage Centre, one day after the 96th anniversary of the Balfour Declaration. The film traces the Mandate period against the backdrop of Christian Zionism in the U.K., and within the context of the rise of Nazism in Europe.
    “From a political standpoint, it is absolutely true to say that if it wasn’t for the British Mandate, there would be no State of Israel today,” said the award-winning film maker. “However, the eventual rebirth of the Jewish State happened in spite of Britain rather than because of us.
    “Because of the White Paper of 1939, which was an abrogation of the Mandate, we in Britain have Jewish blood on our hands.
    “The British government policy of keeping the Yishuv unarmed while arming and training the Egyptians and the Jordanians could have resulted in a genocide of the Jewish people here just three years after the end of the Holocaust.
    “This betrayal resulted in the deaths of an untold number of Jewish people, who were unable to escape the Nazi Holocaust and come here to your ancient Promised Land – Eretz Yisrael. A few of those thousands of Christians from Britain who carry this sense of shame and sorrow are here tonight.”
    One of those Christians, Geoffrey Orr, was a British army officer in the Royal Signals who was stationed on Mount Carmel in the final year of the Mandate. Orr, who flew to Israel especially for the occasion, sat with his head in his hands while the speeches were delivered. Indeed, it was humbling for all of us – as British people – attending the screening, alongside some of Israel’s heroes.
    One of these heroes, veteran Zionist Shlomo Hillel, former Knesset Speaker and founder of the Ayalon Institute, followed Mr Kitson with his own greeting. The Begin Centre’s Director, Herzi Makov, said of Hillel that the “story of his life is the story of the redemption of Israel in modern days”. The ninety year-old whose underground factory armed the fledgling Jewish resistance under the noses of 14000 British soldiers, brought a positive angle to the evening, calling the film a “masterpiece”. The grace with which Hillel spoke, characterises many of Israel’s brave, but humble warriors. These are men who do not hold hatred in their hearts towards Britain, but who simply risked their lives for their homeland.
    “When I think of our relationship with Great Britain,” he said, “I try to think of people like Arthur James Balfour, without whom there would have been no Balfour Declaration, I try to think about Winston Churchill, about Wingate, and from now on I am going to add your name – Kitson – to this noble list. Thanks to you I continue to believe in mankind.”
    British journalist Melanie Philips agreed with this sentiment: “It is the duty of a British patriot like Hugh Kitson to expose this shocking legacy, before it is too late.” Philips explained that the “current malice” in the British media and public towards Israel is rooted in a complete revision of history and the resulting contortion of truth, history and justice. She said that the documentary needed to be shown widely in Britain.
    Keynote speaker Professor Robert Wistrich, of the Hebrew University, author of ‘The Longest Hatred’, was passionate in his retelling of the background of British anti-Semitism in the Middle Ages, continuing into the Mandate period and deep seated within the British administration. He said that the documentary contained “two rare qualities that are in short supply, not least in academia: honesty, and moral clarity”.
    While Wistrich acknowledged the philo-Semitic tradition in his native Britain, born in the Protestant Reformation, and “without which there would have been no Balfour Declaration”, he outlined the pattern of British complicity in Arab revolts, from 1920 onwards, and later in the deaths of those who were unwanted by the nations. He gave the reason the British military stood by while Jewish inhabitants of the land were brutally murdered and the cry went up, ‘The Government is with us; kill the Jews!’ The reason, he said, was that the Jews “presented a challenge to British authority”.
    The problem was ours: our arrogance. This was not even our land.
    Even at Atlit, where we imprisoned the refugees on the shores of Palestine itself, we see that the Jewish Resistance would not rest until they had rescued every one of the first group which was due to be sent back to Europe. This was, of course, the correct attitude. Britain itself had been given the awesome responsibility of “establishing a national home for the Jewish people”. And here we were, sending Holocaust survivors back to Germany. What kind of arrogance was this, that we could not only defy the mandate given to us by the League of Nations, but that we could treat the very people of God this way. Father, forgive us.
    One of the most poignant lines in the entire film, is given by the late Holocaust survivor Anny Gronner, of Blessed Memory. She says of her time imprisoned in Mauritius, “They stole me five years of my life. I was twenty years old. For what? I can’t understand”.
    Anny’s son Danny and his family were present at the film premiere, along with Sir Ronald Cohen and Lady Sharon Harel Cohen, representing her father, the late Yossi Harel of Blessed Memory, Commander of the Exodus. Harel’s powerful interview for the documentary exposes clearly the “stupid and revolting policy” of the British, in our use of two warships to capture an old vessel containing 4500 precious Jewish lives.
    Kitson, himself a descendant of King Edward I, under whose reign the British Jewish community was expelled in 1290, called for action on the part of the British government, to officially acknowledge the hundreds of thousands of lives (at least) which could have been saved, or whose deaths could have been prevented, during the Mandate years. He conceded that he felt that only one strategy would work. “The only way is to actually shame the Government,” he said. “We need exposure.”
    It is true that there is a pattern emerging, referred to on the night by Professor Wistrich, of the former empire beginning to crumble as we dealt badly with the Jewish nation. By betraying our spiritual heritage, he said, Britain “betrayed its own soul”. As we divided God’s land, so the United Kingdom is becoming divided. And as we shamed the broken Auschwitz survivors by searching them and ‘disinfecting’ them on their arrival in their Promised Land, so the British leadership must be brought to its knees.

  11. Christopher Proudlove

    The lady from Stockport who helped Jews to make aliyah to Israel from Eastern Europe did not have a gun. What she and her colleagues did to ‘hunt’ people was to search birth, marriage and death records to find people who often did not know they had Jewish ancestry.

  12. Christopher Proudlove

    Trevor Barclay: “I need explain nothing to you. Besides everyone can now see your comment and those of us who are not extremists can see you lot for exactly what you are, mad, bad, deranged, dangerous and evil.Not to mention pathetic and bigoted liars.This site will no longer publish your lies or hate rhetoric which must be a relief to you as you can’t answer the questions posed. But i already know you can’t answer them without lying anyway.
    Absolutely sickening.”
    Whatever I am I have not used offensive language like this. Comments like this do not meet the standards Jesus set.

  13. Christopher Proudlove

    Ben Stein writes about Billy Graham’s daughter being interviewed on TV and asked: ‘How could God let something like this happen?’ (regarding Hurricane Katrina). Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said, ‘I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we’ve been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?’
    In light of recent events… terrorist attacks, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O’Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn’t want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbour as yourself. And we said OK.
    Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn’t spank our children when they misbehave, because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock’s son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he’s talking about. And we said okay.
    Now we’re asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don’t know right from wrong, and why it doesn’t bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.
    Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with ‘WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.’
    Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world’s going to hell.
    Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.
    Funny how you can send ‘jokes’ through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing.
    Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

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