So Chris Proudlove is at it again. This time he has commented in one of his own blogs which can be found here http://www.christiansforzion.com/comment-chris-proudlove/2013/6/21/sabeel-supporters-fallacies-exposed
After his embarrassing gaffe regarding UNSC resolution 242 he has hit back with these gems,
“There are strong legal precedents for the claim that a war fought defensively permits retention of the land secured in that war.”
I’ve already blown that lie out the water here https://christiansforzionwatch.wordpress.com/2013/06/24/when-is-it-ok-to-lie/
Here’s the rest of his lie,
“Israel is not an “occupier” in Judea and Samaria, according to Arlene Kushner. She writes: The word “occupation” is bandied about regularly. The Palestine Authority and the Palestine Liberation Organisation have adopted the idea of Israel as “occupier” as a mantra and much of the world has accepted it. But the facts tell us something else.
Judea and Samaria were (and still are) unclaimed Mandate land, to which Israel has the strongest claim. Legally, occupation only occurs when one nation moves into the land of another. But there was no nation legally sovereign in Judea and Samaria before 1967 — Jordan’s presence there was not legal.
There are strong legal precedents for the claim that a war fought defensively permits retention of the land secured in that war. Wrote Steven Schwiebel, former judge of the International Court of Justice:”…the Israeli conquest of Arab and Arab-held territory was defensive rather than aggressive conquest.
“…it follows that modifications of the 1949 armistice lines… are lawful…whether those modifications are, in Secretary Rogers’s words, ‘insubstantial alterations required for mutual security’ or more substantial alterations – such as recognition of Israeli sovereignty over the whole of Jerusalem.” (Emphasis added)
Read the selected writings of Stephen M Schwebel, Judge at the International Court of Justice.
With all of the above, it should not be forgotten that areas over the Green Line, in eastern Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria, represent the very heart of Jewish heritage: From the Temple Mount; to Hevron and the Cave of Machpelah, where the matriarch and patriarchs are buried; to Shilo, where the Tabernacle was brought. How can Jews be “occupiers” in their own ancient land?”
Hmm, here’s his whole comment blown out of the water by Howard Kyle.
“In July 2004, the International Court of Justice in an advisory opinion ruled that both Israel’s separartion wall and its associated regime of check points, settlements, and by pass roads in the West Bank were illegal. The ICJ further stated that an occupying power cannot claim that the lawful inhabitants of the occupied territory constitute a “foreign” threat for the purposes of Article 51 of the UN Charter. The ICJ noted that Israeli settlements and the displacement of Palestinians is a violation of Article 49, paragraph 6, of the Fourth Geneva Convention.
The ICJ further cited Israel’s on going, oppressive policy of land confiscations, house demolitions, creation of Jewish only enclaves, restrictions on movement and access to water, food, education, health care and employment, as being in violation of its obligations under international law and the Palestinian right to self determination.”
And here’s the link to the ICJ http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?pr=71&code=mwp&p1=3&p2=4&p3=6&case=131&k=5a
Another spectacular Hasbara fail by Proudlove and his sources.